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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:37 pm 
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1. Driver's license from state where you will be registering it. For this club's purposes, it's often easiest to get this in New Jersey or New York.

2. Insure the vehicle. In New York, you must have insurance before you can register the scooter. Insurance companies ask for your driver's license ID, but aren't necessarily particular if you have a class M license or not.

3. Register the new vehicle with the state. For New York:
a. http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/register.htm#register
b. This link gives you details on the forms you must bring to the DMV, costs, acceptable proof of ownership and what constitutes poof of your identity and date of birth.

4. Get the vehicle inspected. If you did not buy the scooter brand new from a NYS dealer, you will receive an inspection extension sticker when you register it. The sticker allows you 10 days from the registration date to get the vehicle inspected in NYS. Any NYS or out-of-state inspection issued to the previous registrant is not valid after the vehicle is registered to you. You must have the vehicle inspected.

5. Get your motorcycle license. You can actually do this before you buy a scooter, but the New York law says that a M class license is required for vehicles that have a top speed over 30 mph (not engine size).

See http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dmvfaqs.htm#MOPEDS for information on "Limited-Use Motorcycle Requirements" - Mopeds, which are NOT scooters.


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:17 pm 
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What if the scooter is registered in Florida, a state where an M class license isn't required and insurance is not necessary? Do I still need to have insurance and a motorcycle license to ride it in New York? Also, what if you have an out of state license? Must you still obtain a motorcycle license?


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And again, for emphasis:

an M class license is required for vehicles that have a top speed over 30 mph (this is not determined by engine size)

Your NY scoot requires a Class M (motorcycle) license. Don't even bother questioning it.


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And again, for emphasis:

an M class license is required for vehicles that have a top speed over 30 mph (this is not determined by engine size)

Your NY scoot requires a Class M (motorcycle) license. Don't even bother questioning it.


My scooter has Florida plates, though. Still applies?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:25 am 
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Norgon, if you remain a resident of Florida, you're ok while in NY State. However, if you have become a resident of NY, you must get a NY license and re-register in NY to be in compliance.

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Definition of a Resident. If you become a resident of NYS, you must exchange your driver license and vehicle registration from another state for a NYS driver license and vehicle registration within 30 days. If you have a driver license from another state, you must get a driver license from NYS within 30 days after you become a resident of NYS. If you have a vehicle registration from another state, you must get a vehicle registration from NYS within 30 days after you become a resident of NYS.

Section 250 (5) of the Vehicle and Traffic Law defines the term "resident." The law defines a resident as a person who lives in NYS with the intent to make NYS a "fixed and permanent" place to live. To live in a house, a home, an apartment, a room or other similar place in NYS for 90 days is considered "presumptive evidence" that you are a resident of NYS. A police officer can use this evidence as the reason to issue a traffic ticket if you drive in NYS without a driver license or vehicle registration issued by NYS.


http://www.nysdmv.com/resident.htm
http://www.nysdmv.com/license.htm#driversmoving
http://www.nysdmv.com/register.htm#outofstate

As for insurance, a scooter registered and operated in NYS must have liability insurance. Even before you have become a resident, "vehicles registered outside New York State and operated within this state must conform with the New York State financial responsibility law," which is a little vague but I believe this explains it:
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Under Article 6 of the New York Vehicle & Traffic Law... the owner of a motor vehicle operating on a public highway of New York, whether or not the owner’s policy is issued in New York, must have financial security in place in accordance with the requirements of New York law. One acceptable form of proof of such financial security is an owner’s policy of liability insurance (which includes New York mandated No-Fault benefits). If such financial security is not in place when a motor vehicle is operated in New York, both the vehicle owner and driver are subject to penalties under Sections 318 & 319 of the Vehicle and Traffic Law, which may involve up to a $750 fine.


So, it appears you need to get insurance even before you have to register here if you want to drive your scooter in NY.
http://www.nysdmv.com/broch/c43.htm
http://www.ins.state.ny.us/ogco2004/rg040332.htm

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