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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:43 am 
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I just moved to NYC several months ago and fell in love with scooters... I am thinking about getting a scooter and was wondering how safe it is to ride scooters around the city. What are some of the more dangerous things that have happened while riding a scooter?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:14 am 
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http://www.nyscooterclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4957

but instead of always looking towards the negative, there is abundantly more positive reasons to ride.

First - get your license - take the Motorcycle Safety Course - the fastest and safest way to get your license.

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If you own a bicycle try riding around in some city traffic first. I know it's not the same as a scooter, but might give you an idea of the risks.

Please sign up for an MSF course.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:29 pm 
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Scootering involves risk. You can mitigate with MSF training and protective gear.

But it's a myth that any form of transportation in NYC is completely "safe":

Taxis:
viewtopic.php?t=325

Bicycles:
viewtopic.php?t=1402
viewtopic.php?t=1494

Subways:
viewtopic.php?t=1683
viewtopic.php?t=4137

Walking:
viewtopic.php?t=3026

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http://www.newyorkology.com/archives/20 ... uption.php

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4/5/6 disruption as another person hit by subway

There are major subway disruptions to 4/5/6 service this afternoon after a man fell on the subway tracks at the Bleecker Street station and was hit by a train, NY1 is reporting.

The 6 train is suspended between Grand Central Terminal and the Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall Station while the 4/5 trains are running altered routes, according to the MTA's service advisory page.

In the past week, two MTA track workers have been struck and killed by subway trains.

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Urban nightmare come true: A woman fell 10-12 feet through sidewalk grating outside 150 West 51st Street. And she fell into an electrical transformer vault! Luckily, she was not electrocuted (according to NY1, Con Ed said she was "never in danger of being electrocuted"), but the power was shut off as a precaution. One person told WCBS 2, “I was walking in front of her and all of a sudden I heard somebody yelling, somebody fell, and I turned around and there was a hole in the ground. That’s when I ran over, saw it and ran to my job and called 911.”

It took 20 minutes for the FDNY to rescue the woman, who is at a hospital in stable condition. Naturally, this has scared the bejesus out of, well, anyone who walks on a sidewalk.

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nope! Def. not safe to ride in the city - def. should NOT ride a vespa in the city....nope never do it!

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Participation involves risk; but, you can always choose the option (although not recommended) of sitting on the fence and watch the world go by.

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risk are involved all of the big cities. just take it slow and enjoy the ride,just dont ride in a hurry like this daredevil :lol: :lol: :lol:

i leave lanesplitting for stalled traffic as should you :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:13 am 
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Did you know that statistically, driving a scooter is not even two times as deadly as driving a car?

And that scooter riders are five times less likely than motorcycle riders to die in an accident?

This according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety:
The Wall Street Journal wrote:
In 2005, the latest year with complete data, the death rate for scooter riders was 129 per million scooters registered, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, a research group funded by the insurance industry. That compares with a rate of 78 for cars and light trucks. The rate is significantly higher for motorcycles, however: 645.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121131620487908103.html

I'm sure that if asked, even many of us would have assumed cars would have been many times safer than these statistics show. Also, many people would have sworn that motorcycles would have been statistically safer than scooters, because of their larger wheels, more powerful engines and loud pipes. Not true.

Overall, this shows that your chance of dying in a scooter accident are about 7,752 to 1. Interestingly, that compares favorably to the to odds of dying in any kind of motor vehicle accident in the U.S. (6,535 to 1) according to the U.S. National Safety Council: http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.c ... in-us.html

Note: While these results are interesting, they only cover fatalities, not serious or even minor injuries which are far more common. Don't be lulled into a false sense of safety; to minimize your own personal risks, wear the right gear, slow down especially at night and in the rain, and learn how to ride your bike properly with the MSF Basic Rider Course or other safety classes.

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Walking:
http://www.gothamist.com/2007/05/17/yikes_woman_fal.php

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Urban nightmare come true: A woman fell 10-12 feet through sidewalk grating outside 150 West 51st Street. And she fell into an electrical transformer vault! Luckily, she was not electrocuted (according to NY1, Con Ed said she was "never in danger of being electrocuted"), but the power was shut off as a precaution. One person told WCBS 2, “I was walking in front of her and all of a sudden I heard somebody yelling, somebody fell, and I turned around and there was a hole in the ground. That’s when I ran over, saw it and ran to my job and called 911.”

It took 20 minutes for the FDNY to rescue the woman, who is at a hospital in stable condition. Naturally, this has scared the bejesus out of, well, anyone who walks on a sidewalk.


Call me crazy but I never walk over grates for that same reason!

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Walking, again:
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Although no one was actually killed, Friday was a tough day for Manhattan pedestrians. Three separate cars careened onto sidewalks; and so many people were hit that it's unclear how many were run down.

http://gothamist.com/2008/06/21/cars_vs ... y_cars.php

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Subway...

http://www.nypost.com/archives/covers/; ... n=12042012

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If you buy a scooter thinking that you are going to crash you better use that money in something else. As you can see in the previous posts it is as "safe" or as "dangerous" as everything else in life. Riding a scooter in New York City gives you a different perspective than walking, bicycling, being in a bus, or in a subway car. It is a unique experience that you can make safer by taking the MSF riding course, getting a motorcycle license, insurance, wearing the right gear, obeying the traffic laws, and acknowledging pedestrians as well as other road sharers.

So going back to your question, YES! it is safe to ride a scooter in NYC. 8)

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