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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:20 am 
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Many of you are very experienced riders. Can you provide 3 tips on riding safe?

I've been riding for 3 years, but I am sure I (and others) can benefit from your experience.

One good tip, can save a life.

Thanks

I know we can learn from books, and from the MSF courses. But I still would like to hear from you, what you think are the most important safety tips on riding a Scooter.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:32 am 
Well I am not experienced but I made a huge mistake when I first purchased my scooter. Dont under estimate the power of a scooter!!!!
Do not let your unexperienced friends ride it.

I let my boyfriend ride me to a restaurant in BK (he has no license). The whole time he was so nerves after we got in traffic. We made it safe, but when we got to the restaurant he didnt turn the bike off, and got off the bike leaving me on the back, and my feet can not reach the ground so the bike tips over to the right I go to jump of and grab the handle not realizing the bike was still on and the bike flew off and hit a parked jeeps bumper. I had a hard to fix dent and was afraid to get back on. When the bike took off I was still holding on. It didnt go to far and I wasnt hurt but I felt the impact of the crash. It shook me up.

So the moral of the story is get familiar with your bike before you involve others.

I have a friend who is now in a wheel chair because of a incident like that. Wasn't even riding, thought it was simple and messed with the power of a motorcycle in a backyard.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:38 am 
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assume that you're invisible.
do everything that you can to increase your visibility.
never assume that someone else can see you.
Use your horn, frequently!

Look through your turns. Your bike will go where you look...no joke!

Never ride if you are emotionally distressed or angry.

If you feel tired, pull over.

Never ride beyond your abilities. If you are in the rain and a total nervous wreck...get out of the rain!! If you are going really quickly and it feels like you're going too fast...you are, slow down - you're not ready to go that fast.

Loose gravel and wet leaves are no joke - ask to see my scar to prove the point.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:43 am 
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1. Always assume motorists can't see you.
2. Claim your road space.
3. Ride fast enough for potentially dangerous scooter/car interactions to be visible mostly in front of you rather than behind you.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:54 am 
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Great tips...here are my top three:

1-Assume they can't see you

2-I know it's hot out there, but wear your full face helmet.

3-Even if you are half a mile from home, ride it like you are 3 hours away. Most accidents happen very close to home...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:53 am 
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1) Accidents happen close to home. Move.
2) After you've moved, stay home at all times.
3) Sleep in your casket so you'll be ready for what's coming.












Best three (I'm not feeling at all original today) are:

- Aim high in steering. The bike goes where your eyes go.

- Make sure they see you. You are presumed invisible.

- Get the big picture. Watch. Everything. All the time. If you're in your head, thinking about she-who-must-not-be-named, pull over and get off the fucking bike.

Your brain will save you. Your safety gear will only keep you intact to tell stories later about how your brain fucked up.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:04 am 
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I'm all for avoiding trauma, and possibly saving a life.
1) ATGATT - All the gear, all the time. Dress for the crash, not the ride.
2) Don't drink and drive. Ever.
3) Never let down your guard. Anticipate, and take appropriate action to avoid a potentially dangerous situation.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:06 am 
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1. Turn off your f-ing turnsignal when you are done with it (i forget too, but it is leading cause of having some douche pull directly in front of you 'cause they think you turnin')
2. Assume that all fluids that you see on the street are oil, dumpster spooge, antifreeze or some other substance that is as slippery as whale snot..
3. Look through the windshild of the car in front of you

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3a. Use invisability to your advantage
3b. Don't twist your head to look at some ass (pick your type as this applies to everyone) walking down the side walk....you will be amazed at how fast traffic seems to stop the second you do this...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:09 am 
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Not my top three, but the three most recent mistakes I've made that have led to close calls:

- Don't assume that a turn signal means the car is going to turn.

- Don't assume that the lack of a turn signal means the car is not going to turn.

- Don't assume a car in a turn-only lane is going to turn.


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Here's some more along those lines:

Don't ever assume that the piece of road momentarily obscurred from your view does not have a car in it unless you can see all the possible places from which such a car might insert itself.

The most dangerous thing you will encounter when turning are people standing in the roadway and not back on the curb.

Someone WILL walk across your path in mid-block from in front of that non-moving truck/bus/van you're passing.

A Chinese pedestrian (so sue me) WILL scurry across your path against the light.



FUV's are obnoxious but pedestrians will make you drop the bike. Again, and again, and again. Death to pedestrians. If I can convince even one of them I will smash his carcass all over SoHo if he steps in front of me, I've done my good deed for the day.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:56 pm 
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A. Watch the peds, it may seem that they are looking at you, but in fact, they are looking THROUGH you.
B. Assume that everyone driving in a car is an idiot. Some may not be, but most are.
C. Learned from my bike messenger days: Watch for the "shoulder dip" from the person in the back of the car/cab, as that means they are gonna throw open that door. Especially helpful for you lane splitters!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:34 pm 
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Ride as though you're invisible.

Anything made of metal can kill you (from stroller moms on cellphones to wet manhole covers to giant FUVs).

Look at the wheels of a double-parked car, watch for them to start turning (side to side) or rolling before the motion of the car really becomes noticeable.

Expect every cab with its light on to swerve across four lanes to pick up that passenger, cutting you off.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:38 pm 
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OMG yes - I can't believe I forgot about metal in the roads - that shit'll kill you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:46 pm 
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I would say...
1. Always look thru the window of the car in front of you.

2. Always watch the wheels of the cars on each side of you. Even parked cars.

3. Know your limits. If you feel uncomfortable at a certain speed slow down. When you gain the experience travel at higher speeds. I hated highways, now I dont car briing on the semi's

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:47 pm 
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Stay the hell away from Houston St.

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2) Don't drink and drive. Ever.


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I would say a better recommendation is to know your limits, because I think it's unrealistic to think that no one will ever drink and ride.

That is, of course, the best idea - not to drink and ride ever...but it's highly unlikely to happen.

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Scroll ALL of the above thru your memory while riding and you'll be OK. :mrgreen:


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mangajunky wrote:
I would say a better recommendation is to know your limits, because I think it's unrealistic to think that no one will ever drink and ride.


Actually that is my one hard rule with riding. I never drink and ride. Ever.

At rallies I will park the bike and take a cab to the evening piss up. I have to because it's unconstitutional for a kiwi to limit his beer consumption.

Drinking and riding is just bad news.


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mangajunky wrote:
I would say a better recommendation is to know your limits, because I think it's unrealistic to think that no one will ever drink and ride.


Actually that is my one hard rule with riding. I never drink and ride. Ever.

At rallies I will park the bike and take a cab to the evening piss up. I have to because it's unconstitutional for a kiwi to limit his beer consumption.

Drinking and riding is just bad news.


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